Specialized roundtable on the topic of education and learning in سوارکاری.

خلاصه

In the fifty-first episode of Radio Chahar Nal, Maziar Jamshidkhani and Mahmoud Pourheidari examine the culture of education and learning in equestrianism. The guests of this program refer to the challenges of coach development and the changes of the past 20 years in this field, emphasizing the importance of returning to educational principles and training quality coaches. They discuss the difficulties of equestrianism and the need for patience and time in developing professional riders, and they share their experiences of working with horses and various coaches. Additionally, the emphasis on choosing the right coach, the importance of a strong relationship between coach and student, and the necessity of creating a positive learning environment are other important points of this conversation. Finally, the need to differentiate between recreational and professional equestrianism and the necessity of physical readiness for championship is emphasized.

نکات کلیدی

• این اپیزود به مبحث آموزش و یادگیری در سوارکاری می‌پردازد.
• تولید محتوا در رسانه‌های مستقل نیازمند حمایت مخاطبان است.
• حداقل ۶ سال زمان برای رسیدن به حداکثر نشستن سوار لازم است.
• آموزش سوارکاری با مشکلاتی از جمله وجود افراد غیر فنی و مسائل اقتصادی مواجه است.
• صبوری و یادگیری از تجربیات دیگران در اسب‌سواری ضروری است.

متن کامل ویدئو

Greetings to all you wonderful and lovely listeners of Radio Charnel. I hope wherever you are, you are healthy and happy. First of all, I owe you an apology for the delay in producing podcasts, and the reason is that I moved towards television and radio programs and produced two live programs on Radio 4 television, which was on the Aparat platform, and once again, your support was with me, and you welcomed it very well. If you are interested, you can have the link to the Aparat and YouTube channel of Radio Charnel from the bio of the Instagram page and access the videos. This episode is episode 51 of Radio 4 Nel, which is actually the podcast of the first roundtable program of the radio.

It was conducted with the presence of Maziar Jamshidkhani and Mahmoud Pourheidari and revolved around the topic of education and learning culture in equestrianism, which you dear ones also kindly welcomed this video very well. This video is also available on the YouTube and Aparat channel of the radio, and you can watch it visually, but I preferred to broadcast it as a podcast so that all dear ones can benefit from these valuable talks. As you all know, producing content in this style and considering that I am not selling a product is very costly.

And it can be said that almost everywhere in the world, all media move forward with the support of their audience, and their survival depends on the support of their audience. I am infinitely grateful to you for supporting me again, whether as a sponsor in the programs or as gifts from the link I leave for you in the description of this episode, and I wish you all health. The poster designer for this episode is, as always, the dear Farshid Jahanbazi. The financial sponsor of this episode is the Safavi brand, which produces various excellent saddles

and also equestrian equipment like safe jackets or protective vests, which I recommend all of you to use, and I will place their Instagram link for you in the description of this episode. I am infinitely grateful to you for supporting me again, following Radio Charnel, and sending it to your friends, and I won't bother you any longer and invite you to listen to episode 51, the first specialized roundtable.

In the name of the One who gave existence its name, the heavens found motion, and the earth found peace from Him. Hello, I am happy to be with you with the first visual roundtable on Radio Charnel. This program is held and recorded in the studio of Meysam Safaviyeh and the Safavi saddle brand, and I will introduce my colleagues to you later. We have two very valuable and good guests, almost from a generation of Iranian equestrianism. Two exemplary and notable riders. My guests in this episode and in this program. If you allow me, I will not use the term master. We leave the term master for our veterans. I am with Maziar Jamshidkhani, one of the good, very technical, very lovable riders, and I made a special request and invited my brother Mahmoud Pourheidari, who has been one of the good riders and my own master, to be a guest on this Radio Charnel program.

We are going to talk about the topic of education and learning with these dear ones in this program. As a matter of courtesy and age, I will start the conversation with Maziar Jamshidkhani. Welcome, Maziar. Thank you for giving this time to me and the radio. I am very happy that we were able to come to the conclusion together to prepare a space, thanks to Meysam Safaviyeh, to gather and talk, and ultimately to challenge and produce thought among the audience of the equestrian community and horse industry so that we can make better decisions. Thank you for coming.

Thank you very much for inviting me. I hope you are well. Mahmoud, I thank you for taking the time again and honoring us by sitting here to discuss the topics. If you want to say hello so that we can then start the discussions. First, hello to you all. Well, to not digress too much and to get to the main point. The story is that you have also been the head of the coaches' committee for 10 years, and now with Masoud Makani Nejad, Hossein Fekri, Shahrokh Khan Moghadam, and

you were the core team. In the past few years, meaning in the last 10 years, which at least my memory serves better, we have tried hard to produce coaches, but as we talked about before, the level of knowledge of the coaches cannot be judged very well, and unfortunately, my question is what should we do to go back to 20 years ago.

Meaning to have coaches like Maziar Jamshidkhani, Mahmoud Pourheidari, Abolfazl Mohammadzadeh, Masoud Makani Nejad, and many others who are at your level and age. Well, it's a somewhat broad question that can be examined from many aspects, but the main issue is what has happened from 20 years ago to now? Hasn't everything become more market-oriented, everything faster, everything more accessible? Riding has also progressed in the same way with people's perspective.

And because, unfortunately, I have to say this, it didn't have very strong foundations, unfortunately, riding also changed its direction and went the wrong way. Instead of spending time, being patient, producing students, we tried to quickly prepare a horse for anyone who came through the door, get them to jump sooner, and reach the destination and be able to win prizes and now in whatever field we are, get them to the competition.

And then this disaster, which is now gradually becoming apparent, happens. Let me point out that I am the president of the federation, the president of the federation's coaches committee, although I always say if a person can do their job a little better for the period they are in, they are progressing. Let me say that I have recently become the president of the coaches committee.

And as we talked about in previous interviews, I mentioned that the plans we proposed at that time were not accepted at all, and riding went the way it is now, and we have all these level 3 coaches and so on. I mean, I want to say that the gentleman who now has this position is essentially a protester, not protesting against Masoud Makani, who was the previous committee president, not protesting against Faramarz, who is one of the best educational people in the country. I know myself how much effort we put into it, how much we endured.

But the reality is that it was the wrong path, and people need to understand that mistakes cannot be corrected with five sessions and a test and four training sessions and two, I don't know, physiology classes, first aid, and so on, and you can't give someone a riding coaching card. This is the king of sports and the sport of kings. This is a sport where two generations must pass for the second generation to finally arrive.

One must be very patient with methods for sitting in riding. They say it takes at least 6 years to reach the maximum sitting position you need, and after some time, we bring our rider to the competition. After a while, we give them the day; it's okay. I'm not saying we should wait 6 years, but the way is not to just keep creating coaches without knowing their quality or their efficiency. As it is enough to just review the current state of the federation, we can see.

Now, after 10-12 years of implementing this system and being so strict, trying not to give cards randomly, and genuinely trying to elevate the culture of this work, insisting on riding without stirrups, insisting on exercises, we were all there. Did it yield the right results? No, in the provinces, I don't see a glimmer of hope. I don't see much in Tehran either because we are playing the trumpet from the wrong end. You two are a great example; you came from a main family.

You can understand my point. A generation has passed. Hassan Pouraidari rode recreationally at the Kannon Equestrian Club. It's true he was a professional, but he had another job. But he became so passionate about this work that I remember he spent all his remaining life on it. We always saw Uncle Hassan. When children grow up in that environment, one of them becomes a star, like Mahmoud.

But this funnel is not blown from this end; all its liquids spill. You can't blow a trumpet from this end; it won't make a sound. We can't bring rich kids, buy them good horses. I was really working with my private student; I don't care about the federation regarding the culture of education. I had a student who came after 20 days and reprimanded me for not working with him more than three sessions. I had a student who came and said, for example, after three months, I don't see any progress in myself and feel that you.

Be flexible, become soft. He was complaining about something I spent 12 years in stone cup classes without even asking if there was a warm-up today or if we could skip it. The reason I invited both of you is because of the common traits between you. Both of you were students of Neshati. Now, due to your age, and Mahmoud, both of you had the experience of bringing the principle from zero to the national champion height and many other items. Sorry, I wanted to add in the middle of the conversation.

Anyway, I want to say that my father's path has a beautiful saying: riding has no shortcuts. If someone comes and tells you, I'll get you there faster, there's a flaw somewhere. Yes, the result, to be honest, is what's happening over there. About 10 years ago, in the technical committee or the jumping committee where Dr. Khalili brought Mr. Maleki as a member, I objected as a representative of the owners, and Mr. Maleki was upset. Mr. Malekloo misunderstood my words.

My point was that this is a technical committee; a bunch of technical people should decide about a bunch of non-technical people. Therefore, there is no place for a non-technical person in this committee. If you are non-technical, as a representative of the owners, then your place is not here. If you are a veteran and technical, then come and join. I, as a representative of the owners, then they come and create a show. We have traveled the world; we have seen what is happening elsewhere. We know where it came from. It's not like.

As soon as you open your mouth to talk about over there, they turn around and say, don't others have it? Yes, they do, but again, we are playing the trumpet from the wrong end. Over there, because there are farmers who keep expensive horses, and they work day and night and like to sometimes raise one or two of these foals themselves, there are amateur competitions that you can see in Europe, where they come with muddy rubber boots and very.

Normal appearances, you realize that this person was just sitting behind a tractor, not that they hold competitions over there with diamonds hanging from the rider's side, and I don't know what else. But they can't sit one day. Who do you think this inability belongs to? In my opinion, it's the market's share, meaning the market has limited the economy of this sport. Look, when you can't enter the right way to earn money, in my opinion, I think that when you see that you tell people that it will take two years, they get upset and go to someone else, and then that person's bread is in the oil, and after a short time, you become a worker. I, who am now making these objections, with respect to all of them, I have students myself, and I come and spend time there.

But I tell them, kids, this parkour, these obstacles are not for you. This is a transitional place for you to enter the professional world of riding because the result of these competitions is that a bunch of non-standard obstacles, I mean non-standard parkour, not riding sport and technique, starts from 135. Below 135, it's Chambourti, a branch game, the horse can solve it. Therefore, you put a low-quality obstacle in the middle.

So that it wins a prize and is pleased, so it can support your family's economy. Look, when society goes the wrong way, even the objector does the same thing, but at least I am telling all the kids, I won't keep you in this category, I won't let you stay here. This is a step to pass, but the reality is, at the end of this country's education, did it produce Shahrokh Moghadam, Ezzat Vejdani, Mehdi Jamshidkhani.

Ramin Shaki, Babak Shaki, who had a foundation and substance, or did they discredit each other so much and hit each other so much that nothing remained? In confirmation of the conversation, unfortunately, one of the short-term inflation items is the result, and unfortunately, especially we equestrians who don't have that security margin, meaning the simplest thing like social security insurance to shelter, housing issues.

We become short-term following society, according to your own conversation, and unfortunately, this is something I hope that at least in the future, with these programs and talks and your help, the veterans, the elders, we can at least improve the general understanding of this sport, at least among the owners who enter with financial ability. Well, Mahmoud, besides starting riding with your father and moving forward, you spent some time at the Shaki Club, especially under the supervision of Ramin Shaki. I want to.

The characteristics of Ramin Shakira as someone who might be said to stand at the pinnacle of equestrianism even in Asia, and you have had close encounters with him, meaning you were at the club from early morning and continued this process until sunset, what were those characteristics that made Ramin elegant and Ramin Shaki? See, first of all, if you want to add something to Maziar's words, there is no problem. I said that in completing the complete remarks of dear Maziar, who spoke very well, I should say that they have very interesting and lovely talks. I always listen to their talks and they have a strong expression.

Besides equestrianism, which they can speak very well, apart from the good riding they have, thank God, and in completing the remarks of dear Maziar, I want to say that what they say is very, very important and we have a word in the whole world of riding, in my opinion, called patience, meaning this word is very important that we proceed with patience because equestrian sports are very different from other sports. In other sports, they start very quickly from the basics, and the athlete must reach their peak by a certain age and then retire, but in riding...

The peak of maturity, in my opinion, can be after the age of forty, meaning you can learn a series of things there and experience plays a major role in it, that you have a lot of experience. Because I remember dear Maziar, may God bless him, had an attendance list that at the end of each year he would put the list with his own handwriting on the wall of this house.

They wrote who had the highest price and who had the most attendance, and dear Maziar always had a good name in their club and Mr. Hesarak's club. Dear Maziar was the first on the list there because they never missed in any weather conditions, winter or summer, in any condition.

Dear Maziar was present and their class time was very long, and towards Kordan, thanks to friends and the help that was there, I became the first because we loved it from the bottom of our hearts and believed we had to go this route, and now people like me and Maziar and our peers and a little older than us, we were, in my opinion, lucky people because dear Maziar had their honorable father and another coach from whom they could learn, they were interested, they came from a completely equestrian family background and grew very well, and now or I, due to the circumstances that arose, came to Tehran and my choice was suggested.

The enthusiasm I remember when I participated in the classes, I didn't know Ramin Khan very well, and one day he came with a book and said, kids, this is the book of the world's trainers, which contains the names of the good trainers in the world, and it is an honor for us that Ramin Khan's name is also in this book. It was the first time I realized that there was a person named Shaki, whom I knew completely through my father, but I wasn't familiar, and I didn't even know how many children they had or where they were, and that day in the club restaurant, they gave us complete explanations from there.

I woke up a bit and said, well, as long as Colonel is there, Colonel first, and one day he doesn't come to Kordan for any reason due to the distance, I must go and see him up close, and then I pursued a lot to go and see Ramin Khan up close, and I heard that they don't accept just anyone, the club is closed, and it's a private place, and one early morning I got up and went to the Shakib club at the door, they let me in with difficulty, I went in, there was a canopy there next to the Shaki pool, and it's very nostalgic and interesting, and I sat for an hour, and a lady who was there, I asked her if I wanted to join the club, she said yes, but I'm not coming down right now.

I sat, sat, then I came down and saw them up close, greeted them, and they went towards their riding and work, they weren't very responsive, didn't take it very seriously, then I introduced myself, said I'm Mr. Pour Heidari's son, and since the time of the course and before the revolution, my father had acquaintance with Ramin Khan, and they had worked together, he recognized me, then said, well, let's see what happens, in short, for a month, I was just going to see what happens, I was only allowed to sit on the edge from there, I wasn't even allowed to put a halter on a horse, it was very strict with me, now I'm not coming to ride, I was a rider, but anyway, if the military system was very chic and clean like Colonel Neshat, I came, I won't forget, dear Maziar knows all this, we had to wear white shirts in the summer, all of us, and without exception, we had to tuck them into our pants, meaning my older brother Mehdi once in the so-called manege wasn't paying attention, his shirt was over his pants, he said go out, tuck your shirt into your pants, and come back in.

And before entering the manege, we would receive orders, and until Colonel didn't see us and didn't give us permission to enter, we weren't allowed to enter, we couldn't enter, we would stay with our hands up, we would stand with the horse, he would say come in, we would lower our hands and enter slowly with the horse, now I went from this system to a place where no one even answered my greeting, meaning I felt like I had really come out of Tehran or Iran, went to a strange place, no one would talk, no one would greet you, it was as if my language was a different language, and all the people were very, very dry, proud, and strange, and I didn't know them.

I participated, but because of our means, I wasn't much in those competitions, in short, after a long time, I was allowed to only go to the stables on behalf of Rami Khan.

Pads and bandages of the horses, because most of their horses had rest pads and bandages, and I was allowed to remove the pads and bandages, bring them out, shake them, roll them, and that's it, this was my first stage of work, for example, after several years of continuous presence and without absence in Colonel's classes, I want to say that slope and difficulty of work, say that dear Maziar certainly went through it harder, I'm sure after a few months, now we were only pedaling, we were allowed to put a halter on the horses with George, now we could endure the electric lunge and return on time, meaning.

Completely step by step, and if that interest and that belief, that belief was very important, well, for example, when he talked to us and said something, we were convinced that there is no one in Iran on par with him in terms of technical knowledge and riding experience and work in Europe and America, it was confirmed for us that we just had to pay attention to Ramin Khan, and we believed in this matter, that's why we endured with difficulty, I clearly remember Ramin Khan used to go a lot in winter and was very interested.

Then to force me to be at the club early in the morning, now at that time there was no indoor hall, the manege was completely closed in winter, and almost after the national championship competitions, the competitions would almost go into suspension.

I plan to go skiing early in the morning and I won't set an alarm. Please knock on my door and wake me up. This means I had to take three to four taxi rides from Seyed Khandan to Evin-Darakeh to wake up. Then what was my job? I would go home and just clean the soap equipment next to Mr. Sakhi, meaning I would only clean the tight training saddle's front strap, and that was it. Now we would sweep the stable, wash the trough, and finally clean it. These things are natural.

We moved forward with this difficulty and with the same talks of dear Maziar, we moved forward to learn everything with interest. Unfortunately, because there is a lot of money circulating in this field and there is the issue of so-called trade and business, dear Maziar, if I want to keep a rider or owner waiting too long and proceed very methodically, they will go to another colleague and get results much faster, they will be happy and their expectations, whatever they are, will be met. But my principles might not be implemented. But I just say we have to be patient and start everything from scratch and whoever stays.

Dear Maziar, bless him, let him come and enjoy. If he doesn't stay, at least our responsibility is lighter, meaning we won't be ashamed of anyone in the future. Now some young kids around 18 to 22 years old come and say, sir, we want to come to you and just do an internship, meaning we don't want a salary.

We have no expectations but to be with you and do whatever work there is, but they are all interested in just being on the horse in the manege. Meaning, for example, they go from the manege to the kids via Snapp. Sometimes you really hit them, they can't tell left from right. They are at this level of zero. These are the ones who are now either occasionally jumping with another coach or are about to buy a horse, meaning at this level.

Their work situation is weak. My suggestion is that I always tell all the kids, now I am the smallest talker to teach anyone anything. I still don't really consider myself a coach and I am learning and I am proud to stand in the competition manege and watch Maziar's barrage jump before me. The reality is that a lot of work by dear Maziar and many other kids like Abolfazl Sharagin and other kids is that I stand and watch to be able to use their technique and it's not that I say, for example, I don't accept anyone other than Ramin Khan. It's not like that at all. From all the kids at high altitudes.

He used, extracted points from their warming up, from their starting method in the parkour, from the barrages they go, the trajectory they choose, the engine speed they create in their horses, and there are many points we can learn. May their souls be happy, they always said this is the only field in world sports where no one can claim that I have reached the end of this field and stood on the peak of styles, because every day a new science, a new technique, and a new tool is invented in this field and we just have to think about learning. Now unfortunately, as dear Maziar says, the situation is a bit bad here. We can go from Iran there to update ourselves with new bits, new techniques, new riding, new saddles, everything new and as much as possible now use the available resources and study the kids. Meaning in this time I don't say I had a lot of study but whatever they want, they introduce a book to me.

At that time, Mrs. Sanandari was translating or Mr. Master Jamshidkhani's own books, we were all without exception forced to read. Meaning he would clearly say we have to read and we were so interested and believed in him so much that we would say sir, this book is definitely correct because he approves it and this study is very important alongside practical work and the time you put in, the interest you put in, the time you put in, also study and thank God now in the equestrian store I saw very good books from the field of lungeing.

To equestrianism to parkour books that no matter how old they are, they finally take us one step forward and it is better that our culture is to study even if it is to search something on Google or even ask someone a question. Studying helps us a lot. I talked too much. In summary of your talks, let me say two things, no please, the story is that from Mahmoud's words, some points can be separated that show how much time was spent on the horse at that time.

The horse itself, how much I ride and that I have been going for a year now, I just want to be given 5 horses, this is not it. That you could stand next to a manege where a great person is riding, watching it is a blessing itself. A blessing is an education that you could go into this person's professional stable, open its bandage, bring it out, shake it, it was a blessing. Then this taught you how much our sport reaches everywhere from the horse in riding.

The right way that is now going wrong. We are using the horse as a tool to reach our goal whereas the rider community reaches everywhere from the horse. So if you spent time, if you slept under the horse machine, if you hit from under the horse machine, if you oiled the leather, you hit from your future because I stood under the hand for a lifetime.

Its result is like this. It's not a bad thing for me. Let me tell a memory about this. At first, we didn't have a club from the beginning. I rode in all the clubs in Iran.

And then we came and took the club. The years when the club had just started working, my father had scolded the workers and fired them and went home. I was left with 20 horses. I was hitting under them. In my own world, I was thinking to myself that someone who started with me, who is now a famous person in riding but now no longer rides, started with me and is now jumping 135-140. This guy has put us to work, he says stand here hit under the horse. What good is hitting under the horse for me now after all these years.

Now I give my child the same advice again, in my opinion hitting under the horse is much more valuable than doing a low-quality ride or spending time with the horse or running to pay money to buy a horse. One thing I want to add to both of your talks very briefly, two items built you and your generation: one is the passion you had in yourself and that generation had, two is the strictness that happened to you now due to lack of facilities and anything that we practically cannot enforce that strictness due to this short-term nature.

Let's implement it. For example, I tell my student, "Sir, get off and go wash your mouth because we don't touch the glass at our father's house, and now washing their mouth is very difficult for them." Your father always says something very beautiful: "It starts in the stable," and in my opinion, this is a golden word. In completing Maziar's talk, because we had an experience exactly like Maziar's, maybe you remember when we were in Kordan, we had a club. Now, I wanted to say exactly this: we had 60 boxes, all filled with Arabian horses.

They were tribal and went on strike, saying, "Mr. Puri came out and said, 'Sir, if our wages don't increase, we won't work,'" and they wanted something beyond their rights. We reached the club, Mehdi was with us that day, it was summer, and we could stay overnight. Then they came and said, "Sir, if it doesn't happen like this, if our wages don't increase, we won't work." It was really hard. "Sir, finish your work and come to the office door."

I went and jumped each one, took money from the bank. At that time, the system was such that it took cash, which was very little. He paid the children's wages, and we had exactly one worker for every ten horses, and we also had a night guard. We had seven workers, all relatives and friends, and he fired him. It was me, Mehdi, and my father, three people, and it was decided that as long as my father stayed, the club would remain.

Our food was barley, bran, and hay. Now we said, "Sir, we divided it, let's go." Now Mehdi was stronger than all of us, we said, "Let's start." Hit the bottom more, I'll help you with the bottom. Then the food was with me and my father, and at night, Mehdi and I stayed in the club. For seven days, Maziar, we did this. Three days yes, three days we were late, we hit the bottom three times, we ate three meals. But in Maziar's remarks, it's true that someone jumped 135 and 40, why am I here? But I say this work has its own pleasure, I mean right now.

I love all 12 months of the year, to give my own night food, it has nothing, I say, "Sir, this division except bran gives me pleasure." I mean, I change my room, then I go into the pool with Snap clothes. I want to say, apart from our duty that must be done, it has its own pleasure and something we had planned, we were talking with Maziar, I said, "Sir, you know several categories of riders, including rider, owner.

Coach and amateur student, when they enter the complex, they don't come straight to the edge of the arena, take out their mobile and say, 'Mr. So-and-so, Mr. Groom, bring it.'

When they enter the complex, they go straight to the stable, well, now give them a little diagnosis, open the box, this strawing and dirtying of boots or now shoes that they take on, take a tour around their horse, I mean see all dimensions of the body not out of duty, out of interest. Press the water trough, now make these algae a little hay, take out lunch by hand, then they come, 'Mr. Mahmoud, Mr. Maziar, where are you? We might ride today or, for example, I say, how many owners do you know who come six days a week.

To the club, well, at least two days with fruit, not for the horse, for the interest of the moment of giving fruit. One topic that all of us, maybe those who work in the horse system, are struggling with is the labor issue. A topic I really wanted to talk about, both the labor issue, the rider or assistant rider issue, and something that is practically solvable in Europe. All those who compete.

They do their own horse work, they hit the bottom themselves, they clean themselves. How do you think that I ask you to build a culture, these people go towards thinking that, sir, let's make the system like this. Well, now it can be said that most of the workers in the club are foreign nationals, they are our guests. After all, they have their own lives or there are kids who are Turkmen, they give them a time off, after a while they want to go visit their home and have their own issues or they get caught. If we go towards making it like Europe, I mean now I, as a rider, want to come into the style, see well, sir, let's remove this word.

With higher wages, with more facilities, and I think if we can go forward with such a method, I mean you yourself start instead of having a worker, have a groom, a rider, a group of riders that now all the horses that are finally in the stable given the country's economic conditions are expensive and the one who has the responsibility, one mistake, one distraction, a serious and irreparable damage. You can't do a job that you twisted badly, that fast hurt, for example, even if you work for another hundred years, you can't compensate the money. But if a professional person.

We train, maybe this European method, I mean have a groom rider, give them more wages so that the riders are not dissatisfied with their low income, and at the same time, over time, we produce professional people. I have a problem with this, I am one of those who tried this, it does not resonate with our culture, it seems I don't know the story of feudalism. I don't know you who live in Sweden, when you want to wallpaper your house, you go to the store to buy glue and wallpaper.

That someone comes now, let's hire a worker here, then collect it, then I don't know what, these don't exist. 90 percent of people do their personal work this way themselves. This is a culture that also spreads from this side to the horse and to farm life, a life that our grandparents did until two or three generations ago. It was only because of the arrival of machines and modernity that this was cut off, and the problem is that it was cut off. I mean if those elders had passed it on to the next ones, they had the knowledge and.

Iran would certainly have much more knowledge about horses. But now let's return to the topic, let me say that for years I tried to do this and it didn't work because most of these people who come to become riders, come with the dream of becoming champions and they don't have the interest and passion that should be spent on the horse exactly.

They get very upset if you tell them once why you did it that way here, it should be done quickly. Now if it's someone who has money, he spends it, with his money he buys you this way. If a rider or someone who is coming there to work for you, they don't give you that love and interest. Therefore, I was at least forced to go towards separating these two words. The story is that everywhere in the world, groom is one word, sir, they also call us rider.

Someone who rides a horse and participates in a competition. Now, the discussion about the coach and such comes later. It means that one might be a good rider but not a good coach. So, these are all categorized. We lost, we lost. Now we have added a new category. We have a groom category, a rider category, where their job is to come during the day, take the horse from the rider, take it for a walk or work there.

It's funny because I say I'm not crippled, so I do these things myself. The issue is that unfortunately, the culture is moving in this direction, and then a large part of these kids are working, they are interested, they are working hard. I'm not addressing all of them; I'm talking about the general culture. Usually, very good riders come out of these. It's supposed to be that if one day the system in Iran sparks and a rider emerges, it will be from these riders.

I spend a lot of time on horseback. Pay attention to the term horseback riding in English; you have to spend a lot of time on horseback. It's not right for people to use horses as a luxury item. Of course, some like to do this, but that person cannot become a champion in a specific field.

I hope they watch this program. A lady in Isfahan came and placed the saddle in a place where I took a picture; it was so clear where it was placed. She was almost a master at it, but I was shocked. At first, I thought it was a joke and they were pulling our leg.

Hidden camera? Yes, I coach and wait until the end for everyone to say their piece. Maybe the last sentence gives a hint that I say bravo, this person will become something. But I told that lady: Ma'am, enough, you go out. I came down because I knew and the conditions didn't allow it.

People were standing outside and protesting, and then a major problem arose because this lady was an endurance champion. When did you have time to ride? How and with which horse did you become a champion? When you went towards the horse you became a champion with, the situation was completely different. This is why I say many can use horses as luxury items, many can use horses as consumable items.

But what remains for the equestrian community? What is supposed to teach our children? The master to whom I am supposed to send my son and say, please, help us, I have fallen short in this aspect. One of our problems is that you, as an inexperienced person, meaning without any knowledge, enter an equestrian complex. Your child is interested, has seen it on TV or on the street, and you can't distinguish anything. You enter the club, and I haven't seen until now, for example, in the club's office, a list of coaches and their backgrounds and credentials to choose from.

What happens is that you enter a club and register. Yes, go to such and such a place with Mr. So-and-so. Mr. So-and-so is your student from today for, say, 10 sessions. Unfortunately, it has happened that we choose the cheapest resources, including horses and coaches, for riders, which, based on my experience, I feel has caused us a lot of harm.

My feeling is that for the amateur rider and the amateur horse, the most expensive and best resources should be used. The prosperity of the '90s is gone, and we are in a period of horse scarcity, and we are forced to procure lower-quality horses. If you remember 5 years ago, the quality was much better.

The discussion of training is that the novice rider should be on a seasoned horse, and the seasoned rider on a novice horse. This is a very important point that is less implemented in Iran due to a lack of resources and culture.

Many of the horses that were imported to Iran before the widespread importation of foreign horses came from Turkmen Sahara. You can't tell someone who has been driving for a while to now maneuver with a tractor. We were forced to return to domestic horses because foreign horses ran out, and the level of competitions dropped. Let's remember that the national champion in '71 was held at a height of 120.

The level of riding in Iran rose significantly in the '70s with good courses and many demands from riders. When Rakshan again held the national champions at a height of 145, the need for new horses was felt. Turkmen horses and Turkmen crossbreeds are different from foreign horses.

You can learn to ride with a Turkmen crossbreed, meaning that you can be a good passenger on an animal because they are very intelligent and decide before you. But with a foreign horse, you can give classic training. Turkmen is my pride, and I have many awards with Turkmen, but you can't become an Asian champion with Turkmen.

If we want to bring the level of riding to a global level, we must change the techniques. The paradigm has shifted, and we can't go back to the past unless we improve the level of riding. Regarding the upbringing of children, my generation and I grew up in special conditions and with traditional and old training, which I accept and like.

Kids who want to come to me and Mr. Maziar and other colleagues are in the age range of 18 to 25 and are very well cared for in their families. Now suppose that the parents want their child to work in Maziar Jamshidkhani's stable and be proud that they were Maziar's student.

If Mr. Maziar orders that I am not here this week and I am going to Sweden for a month, you must stay in the club, feed, clean, and be here.

Clean under Mr. So-and-so's horse, no need, you don't need to go. Don't come to us at all, go to the lady coach. I also recommend, there is someone who says, sir, you come to me. There are many people here, for example, I say go out, for example, after the food service, we also have extra, for example, a snack, for example, suppose we give tea or Nescafe. Come here, there are people, but this doesn't become a culture because I and he and people like us used to do this with love, meaning it was our pleasure, for example, my pride was this.

I wanted a first-class Astek horse that was a wedding. Well, it was my first series of horse imports to Iran, a strange, big, and beautiful horse. Jump, I said today under the sun, let me see to what extent it was an honor for me, and I loved doing this, regardless of who the owner is and who rides. The feeling of connection that I could get close to Astek, this was the point I wanted to say in the so-called additions to Maziar's words. The next topic is about the issue he mentioned.

Riding starts from the back of the horse. I say this, and I always remember it again and again. Shaki repeatedly told this to all the kids. He said the kids would quote the riding phrase from their fathers and believed in it themselves. It starts with a walk. For a long time, we should sit on the horse as he said. He said a long time walking, either outside the club or inside the club. Proper walking for a long time and preferably if you have the conditions, without stirrups.

It helps maintain balance, adhesion, and moving away from body contractions in the pelvis, thighs, and back. You find your place in the saddle after a long time, and this complements Maziar's words and the next topic about so-called imports and the discussion of Turkmen and foreign horses, which Maziar said Mr. Radpour really worked hard in this field. Now the criterion for buying a horse in Europe, whether for the owner or the trainer, especially for the owners, is just one word.

Buy a horse that will make us champions. Seriously, our criterion has become the national champion. I have a national champion horse in the 40-45 class, and if its final was also 4 to 150, we don't lack horses. This is one point, and an interesting point to mention about the difficulty of riding, which Maziar mentioned again about Turkmen and.

There is a lot of difference with so-called European jumping, and I have experienced this. Now, I haven't ridden a Turkish horse as much as Maziar, but the first experience was very difficult and also very funny. It was Ramin Khan's torch. I mean, for example, I know all of Ramin Khan's horses and very large horses like After, Kim Kat, Sakharin, Astek, Maziar knows them all, and their height is very tall and heavy. Now we were allowed to walk and finally cool down after walking. Now, recently, he allowed us, and one day to tease us a little, he said bring the torch to ride. We said, well, until now, this torch is very small and compact compared to them.

We brought it, its winter size is small, we rode it, its moon size is big. Shaki was very seated, we took Nescafe on the torch's head, we came into the manege, and from the very beginning, he was joking with us. It's winter, after all.

I repeated it again, and then he laughed. I said, so how do I want rain. I was doing passage with my own eyes, with my own life. I want to take it from him, even in a short time, meaning he executed the effects of dressage with him at the top. Then we couldn't, to this extent, Turkmens are difficult and constantly testing. If you know how to ride, if you are skilled, they give you a delightful service.

A bit of destruction, officially a prank, but from the Europeans, it doesn't have this fatigue and accommodates your weaknesses and helps you. From the Turkmen breed, which was two-blooded, but well, with a height of 150 cm, if I'm not mistaken, they told me it's 150 cm. Now let's not ruin the deal that Ramin Shaki could become the national champion with it. Well, let's cut it, it was really 140, 40-45, yes.

Radpour's national champion, maybe we want to mention an example from before the revolution, Alireza Soudavar after the revolution.

Not very big, the start before the revolution changed the model, meaning he went and saw that European system, brought foreign horses, but well, with knowledge, each of them was a child of their time. Practically a reality, well, one of the problems that for some time on the radio they tell me, an owner came, meaning he sent me a message to talk about this issue and started saying that we.

We got a horse, our child is also very interested. Unfortunately, in some cost discussions and learning discussions, now I don't want to go into details, they had problems, and the last thing he said was that I wish I had seen these things earlier, meaning I had more knowledge. Now from you two dear ones, my question is, and your friends' talks should complement each other, is that now as an owner or even an enthusiast, I've been sitting in the equestrian club for a month looking for a trainer, I'm in love with it, where should I start so that I don't fall into pitfalls in the middle, meaning they don't throw me into a ditch.

My money doesn't go to waste, my time, which is the most important, doesn't go to waste, my youth doesn't go, and ultimately my physical safety is ensured, what should we do? It's really a hard question, in my opinion, but I can say the best advice I can give is to check which trainer focuses more on the basics, which trainer has more patience with animals, is kinder. Start with that, be patient until their knowledge gradually increases, and then make a better decision. I mean, after all, people can leave trainers. One trainer.

At the beginner level, one from a higher-level trainer, I work at the beginner level, no, but it should be like this. The rule is that it should be like this. We have a very big flaw in the riding community, it's not related to now, it's come up. Now the point is that trainers feel that students are their slaves and count a lot on their loyalty. The point is that it should be understood that every student can be a former trainer, learn something.

Pay the rights and trainer and then go elsewhere. The story here is completely different. For example, when a student wants to leave one and go to another, there is a possibility of murder and such. He stole him, he stole this. No, it's not like that. People should be able to change for their progress. Maziar was completely right, first of all, the question is very difficult, and its answer can also be very difficult. Censor a few points, he speaks very beautifully. His words are logical and beautifully resonate.

See, one point is that first, in my opinion, because we were like this ourselves, we must first believe in our trainer, love him. I mean, personally, apart from riding, I mean riding aside, my sports field aside, I loved my trainer's personality, my trainer's appearance, my trainer's clothing from the bottom of my heart. I was a kid, well, for example, I was 19 years old.

I enjoyed seeing my trainer in casual clothes, and when he wanted to go shopping, I would watch him to see how he dressed. This was my belief, and the point that dear Maziar mentioned, how kind he is with the horse and how much time he spends and progresses with the basics, are not issues you can observe in the competition ring. For example, if I, Mahmoud, pass the barrage without error, you can't say this is it. This matter is unrelated, but it has a very important and subtle point that I have lived with and experienced, and God helped me a lot to come out of this issue successfully.

Many young people, both men and women, who engage in horseback riding, genuinely love their coach from the bottom of their hearts. Boys, in particular, imitate everything their coach does, regardless of the riding aspect. Now, my point is that we must be very careful. As dear Maziar says, the person is not our servant. I have seen some young people being ungrateful, for example, sending the coach for personal shopping. This behavior outside the club and riding is not nice and somehow damages the character of that young person.

I, Mahmoud Pourheidari, say that I might be a good rider in the eyes of my student and rider, and they might try to imitate me, but there is an important point that my student, rider, and owner must pay attention to. I, Mahmoud Poudari, have one correct item, but I have 5 to 7 bad negative items that are outside the club and in my personal life, and my rider, owner, and student should not take them as a model in any way. That is, Mr. Mahmoud Poudari, just because I am a good rider, should not cause any misunderstanding for anyone. I sit well on the horse, and my rider can imitate me, but when I get off the horse and leave the club, I might have a bad item, for example, in driving.

Unfortunately, these unconsciously cause that when a young rider comes to us, they model our behavior and say this is my idol, and whatever they do is right. This makes our duty heavier, that if we have moral problems or specific issues, we must be careful to fulfill our human, moral, and cultural duty as much as we can. For example, if in my privacy, suppose I smoke a cigarette, I must ensure that my rider does not see this, and my student has a beautiful image of me in their mind and says this is a good athlete, not that, God forbid, we tell our rider to go get me a pack of cigarettes.

If I want to become a champion like dear Maziar and reach a great position, I must be careful. In the story of role modeling, it is hard to see how much the kids work fundamentally, and alongside riding and professional discussion, I must say from the bottom of my heart that we must consider sports, moral, and human traits very important. For example, if someone rides well and their student is satisfied with them, but they are a very bad-mannered person, we should not choose them because this behavior is contagious and might transfer to the student as well. We must have both the technical and moral discussions of riding together so that we can first train a good athlete and then a professional rider.

In my opinion, the discussion of riding and its teaching as a skill is established through practice and repetition, but its main structure, which is the knowledge discussion, is very important. Unfortunately, in our clubs, only technical techniques are paid attention to, and less attention is given to ethics. This lack of ethics, unfortunately, has now caught many of us and drives many away from this sport. Even in the interview with Mr. Kazemi, when I talked to him, he said that the enthusiasm he used to have for going to the club has now diminished.

We, as those who are older and many people look up to us, must be more careful to give this education. Everything is not just at the top, but also at the bottom. Dear Maziar might also confirm this. For example, when I was riding and we were in his class and helping, he used to go to America for a few months each year and do the work there, and during this time, he was not in Iran. When he was not there, I would do the tasks that were my duty and try to spend time with Babak Khan and learn points from him.

The point I always told myself was that every rider and every coach has strengths and weaknesses, but what I always told myself about him, and you are in the interview with him, is that I have never heard a bad word from his mouth to this day. Not in his phone conversations with anyone, not in the arena, not with the student, and not with the owner. He always had very formal and clean language, and even in the toughest working conditions, he maintained his manners. This point is very important to me, and as an athlete, regardless of riding, I am attached to it. If we bring a coach from abroad to teach in the national team, certainly the manners of my coach and yours will attract them.

His lifestyle, in my opinion, is instructive. Now, all of us, in our conversational jokes, use a series of words anyway, but I really say to this day, that if someone has heard, come and say, sir, I heard, I have never heard a bad word from him. That is, sometimes when the worker or when the kids were mischievous, Babak Khan would point.

I do not hear bad words. He would get angry and speak loudly, but the language would not change, and I hope I can always adhere to this myself. Well, one of the issues that many people in society complain about the coach's behavior, now I have personally seen this in many places. For example, a rider makes a small mistake or does not listen, but they face a character assassination, and practically their self-confidence and self-esteem are crushed by the ignorant coach. I have also seen you shout and even seen you say bad words. But well, your level and the one who works with you certainly have the spirit that, sir, I have come now, these people will, as they say, squeeze me. But well, many people do not have this spirit, and unfortunately, in many kids who stand as coaches, there is a feeling in them that, sir, I am now the god of this arena and allow myself to say anything and speak in any model without backing it up.

I make amends or eventually, a learning takes place. What should we do? I mean, I want to talk to you about those who are learning horseback riding, that is, they are students, what suggestions do you have as those who have learned and teach in any style? First of all, let me explain that this sport has its roots in war. Why doesn't this sport go away, and today it is not very cheesy?

Like Firooz Karimi, who I said why did you shout, he returned from that player and said I cannot say, sir, please kindly cross a high center over our striker's head, Mohammad, pull the ball this way. Every sport has a series of terms, and because it has to be said in the moment, horseback riding has very large dimensions. Usually, the wind blows, and riding is one of the fastest sports in the world. The parkour you do is all a minute and a bit.

From the moment you leave the arena until you come back in, it's 2 minutes. That means, with everything considered, it's two minutes. When there's no time, the rider at that moment must say, move forward or higher. If a point needs to be made, it should be said loudly, clearly, decisively. One point is that due to the nature and essence of this sport, because it will naturally be accompanied by fear, and because in riding training, as I mentioned, we don't strengthen the foundation, riders are pushed too soon.

When approaching an obstacle or performing a task, the coach can teach a point in many different ways, and no one can question why they are teaching it because we have a partner that doesn't have this language. All the blame can be placed on the horse. Always remember, they say when knowledge leaves through one door, violence enters through the next. I might shout, but I try not to break.

The issue is about that specific technique because it is accompanied by fear, the coach's spirit must overcome the student's fear. Therefore, they must speak firmly, speak strongly, and ask the student loudly exactly what they want, and this is mistaken for shouting and saying nonsense and insulting and so on. Everyone has the right to make mistakes. If the student wasn't there and didn't make mistakes, they wouldn't be there; they would be standing down there, and I, the rider, would be.

We must accept all of this, but we cannot ignore the nature and essence of this sport. When someone from outside, who has very gentle spirits and thinks everything should be done with requests and pleas, looks at a class like mine or Masoud Makari's, they might say, wow, this person is skinning the other. Whereas any rider, any athlete, let me say any athlete stays at a level until the coach pushes them, so to speak, to cross that limit and boundary.

And this is not solved without a bit of pressure and force. Otherwise, the student will forever want to jump that high and jump with low speed, with all my faults corrected. Whereas the coach enters the game with their knowledge and demands from the student to do this correctly for them so that they can raise the student's adrenaline to overcome their fear. At that moment, I can't, the coach's work is done. You can't understand what I'm saying, there they must respect you so much and your knowledge.

They must have faith and know that you are immersed in the matter, you know everything well, and they say, well, then do this easily. The story you see where riding coaches all shout is partly due to this open space. Something that Mahmoud has told you and even you, Maziar, many times, and for example, they tell me, sir, your brother is ill-tempered, they say, sir, Maziar, you shout, you curse, you say bad things. I replace it. I come, sir, ill-temper is a human trait that happens over time.

They choose the wrong word for strictness. How is it that you, meaning with you, this strictness is forced to be said with shouting, even I myself when I was a student, you shouted at my wrist, my shoulders, cursed, said bad things, but well, I had that enthusiasm. Now you, the new generation, have less enthusiasm, and there's always someone sitting on the sidelines saying, man, this person is always shouting, I'm killing the character.

What should we do so that the student understands that this is not ill-temper, doesn't label you as rude or, as they say, ugly, and at the same time accepts that you are teaching them and they are learning. See, there are a few points here that I will continue with Maziar's words. Equestrian sports have transferred from war and the military sector to the general public, and the first thing that, contrary to what cannot be said, demands more than other sports and I respect it greatly, and you know better in personal life is discipline.

I had it inherently, and in Colonel's class, it increased much more. I had seen many times, at least regarding my brother, that if his boots weren't clean, he wasn't allowed to enter the arena, and I had seen that the Colonel would expel him. Maziar has certainly seen this.

At first, I respected discipline, technical and educational issues, meaning there should be very good discipline and, so to speak, strictness in this field. The second point, which is a lot, well, I admit sometimes because I'm a bit too idealistic and organized, I want the horse and the student to give me everything ideally, it's a bit hard to settle for the average, and that's my weakness.

And people, in my opinion, mature. I mean, I'm not the person I was a few years ago, and I come to terms with many weaknesses and mistakes, and Maziar has certainly been in this situation where now, for example, when working with their children, certainly, certainly the teaching method.

The choice of words is very different from, for example, a female artist. You know what I mean? I mean, for example, when I worked with you, my younger brother, well, we play football together, we go to the pool, and we have a lot of physical jokes. When we are traveling together, our lifestyle with each other has a different feeling. Many people who work with their spouse or with their brother or sister, their teaching model with others is very different. But unfortunately, it is judged the same from the outside. I mean, if Mahmoud once gave Mohsen a reminder or a light word in an exam a few years ago, that becomes the comparison criterion. If, for example, Maziar gave a reminder or pressure or used a word in a home practice with their child, that pertains to family relationships. If, for example, you gather Maziar and evaluate them working with all their owners and students, you won't hear a sentence from them, because family relationships are completely different in teaching with strangers. This is one point, and the next point is that I always pay attention to this myself.

I highly recommend, and God forbid, I don't intend to teach anyone. I always have a distance and a curtain and a framework between myself and my student. Now that student can be an owner, can be a rider, can be an amateur student at the level of 10 sessions, but I never get close enough to want to enter into jokes, laughter, or closer relationships. Let me put it this way, and I always try in the arena, now the way I always liked the coach and saw, for example, when we enter the subject, we feel much more.

There was another Colonel who, between two class times when we went to the restaurant with him and had tea, the situation changed a lot. That is, he joked more and showed more affection to someone he was very strict with, but the Colonel was always very special to me. I mean, I never allowed myself to smile unnecessarily and always tried to behave in such a way that the Colonel was an idol for me, and he was also a very serious and stern person in the arena. But when I came out of the arena, when the class was over.

The situation changed. I try to maintain my serious demeanor in the arena, but I am always very upset about this because, unfortunately, I had seen in the past in the training of various individuals that I avoid and am very careful not to inadvertently destroy someone because of their inability or ignorance. Because I believe in the issue of breaking a person's heart in training and I am very afraid.

But dear Maziar, because it is a sport where you have a teammate called a horse that weighs at least 400-500 kilos, and again this sentence that your teammate makes the final decision means that even if you do everything correctly and well, the final decision is still with the horse, and this stress and fear always exist. But the issue of training and the issue of respect is also correct. According to dear Maziar, but I myself say I do not insult anyone, we do not destroy. I mean, suppose now I go to learn tennis, well, certainly in the first sessions I may never be able to play tennis well.

I have fun and I am not supposed to participate in the Tehran tennis championship. If in the second or third session, God forbid, I am humiliated or destroyed, I will definitely quit tennis forever and won't even watch it on TV to avoid remembering those days. That's why I pay a lot of attention to this issue to ensure that no one is inadvertently destroyed or changed. If they can't, sometimes I say sorry, or it's my weakness that I can't teach you, or it's something else, let's just forget about it tonight. And another issue that is very important and I can give an example about myself.

People who ride very well and have top-notch riding skills and are great world champions are not necessarily very good coaches. Because the issue of the ability to transfer knowledge and the psychology of the student is a very complex thing that not everyone has, and it requires an innate talent apart from the training. The skill of training is correct. Now let me say something in confirmation of the dear ones' words on your behalf.

The one who has more talent, meaning that the coach recognizes that this person has a special talent, is certainly under more pressure, is certainly shouted at more, and you who are supposed to learn, have this spirit that here this framework of the arena is only for learning. That person is neither my blood enemy nor has any vendetta and does not want to destroy me. I just wanted to ask for permission after dear Maziar's talk to set a boundary between the sport you do for fun or when you are a beginner.

And when we become professional and want to set a boundary for distinguishing when you want to become a champion or when you just want to ride for fun. The rider who just wants to have fun should have the conditions provided for them, give them a calm horse, etc. But the one who wants to become a champion always bears the hardships. In all the movies you see, the champion wins in the end. From the first minute to the 120th minute, they endure suffering to lift this cup.

Therefore, the person who wants to progress is exactly in confirmation of your statement that they must be hammered. My point is that I think this is the case with all coaches that when you work with your rider, at whatever level they are, you see a series of positive points that they easily accomplish. For example, you ask them to do something, and they execute it very correctly and professionally with their horse, not once, but many times on different horses, they have the ability and talent and a good feeling and execute it.

You feel good about this. Then the same rider on certain days on a series of horses cannot execute what they have repeatedly proven to you as top-notch, and I think the reason for all our anger is that day when we are surprised and say this rider has raised my expectations, I have built something very big in my mind, why is it like this today? That day you might lose your temper, the rider who has come, as dear Maziar says, to just learn that a person does not kill themselves, shout at them when.

It comes out, it shows its boiling point when you have seen your rider's ability many times but one day they do not have that ability. Now what has happened to them or what is in their mind, we do not know but that is where the boiling point shows itself. Well, now that we are approaching the end of the discussion, your suggestion, especially now that you are part of the coaches' committee, is about the encouragement and training levels in connections that are not well tested at work, they come there to practice.

If we want to put a filter behind this, meaning we say first go here and get tested, then jump around this 50-60 cm, then go to a beginner's 1 meter and 90 cm, what suggestion do you have that if we do not have its law now, we at least act spontaneously? For example, I as a coach say go do this ground work test, make a circle there, do this here, make a transition there. You know, we have had various periods in the history of riding, once in 1967, 1723, once many, once my father.

They came and put an entrance test for dressage for the entry of horses and riders, meaning for the beginner horse level and beginner rider entrance test X that we brought there to test the horses. It was a very principled and good job, but since we Iranians are not very interested in methods and principles and these things, we quickly messed up the game and quickly threw it on this story that five here without error, the gate of progress is close, yes.

Look, I myself am a jumper, I love jumping. In my youth, when they told me to walk the horse, I was looking for a wooden combination on the ground to jump over. I love jumping to this extent. I who come here and say wait a little, let us jump later, it is clear that the rider's adrenaline goes up and they enjoy it. Saeed, you are the one who is the foundation of this sport, you are the one who should tell this person this is a dangerous thing.

This story of flying where pilots have to log flight hours is exactly like that. This kilometer must be logged. You have to be settled in this saddle for hours, you have to think, it has to have played under your feet, you have to have fallen, run after a horse in the forest, been embarrassed, people have laughed at you. You have to have lived in confrontation with the horse. Now, if you want to jump over there, it takes a year and a half, two years. If you want to jump the championship of Iran, it takes 20 years.

Remove it. I always give the example of dear Maziar to all students and friends because you know we have a mutual pilot friend. I have the exact information from there, saying you have to fill in a certain number of hours for a flight license. For example, if you want, let's say, to sit in the cockpit of a plane from Tehran to Isfahan, then you must have a thousand hours of flight experience to be given a short route.

It's exactly what dear Maziar says. That is, you must have had a number of hours behind you on the saddle. I mean, my discussion is more about that prerequisite, that before entering the official competition gate. I mean, right now I'm at home, practically saying this, I want to teach coaches, those who are working with kids, training students, when to bring them to the competition, what test to design for your rider. If you don't know, eventually, a veteran.

There is an obstacle in it, it exists. Will anyone accept such a thing? Yes, I want to quickly enter the competition. The pleasure of the education committee and the jumping committee should jointly have a thinking session that has now happened in our riding, it has become a directionless thing, it has become like this that now, for the time being, this is the situation.

For now, let's move forward to see how we can avoid losing our very wealthy and powerful sponsors. No, we generally, in the riding community, often step on our principles. I mean, personally, you know better, I care a lot about the physical readiness and weight of the rider. Outside of riding, if you are going to do this sport, it has principles. Please first come to the weight, give yourself a little hardship, follow a little diet, correct the weight so we can address that topic.

First, find control and mastery over the horse. We can go a straight, orderly gallop, then head towards the obstacle. I clearly remember in the classes of the national team coach in the indoor hall of Bam, he would stand at the end of the hall in the middle of the manege, well, he would stand in the middle of the manege. There was no pole or obstacle involved. He would say, gentlemen, friends, all with your horses, first come a straight line towards the 70 meters, then from the middle of the manege width, you would go straight towards Mr. and.

It was difficult because the horse was difficult, he would stand in front of you looking at you. He would say, don't get too far from me. Now, I'm not saying to that extent, but to the extent of mastery and control, we can become proficient with the horse, and as dear Maziar says, that test, which now has a step, has a calmness and an order and system, should be established in it. Unfortunately, throughout Iran, we are faced with the issue of rushing.

To nurture the rider. That is, everyone has a sponsor, someone they ride with, wants to quickly, as dear Maziar says, bring them to that excitement to either buy a horse sooner or take them to the competition sooner to say, sir, coach Mr. X, Ms. Y, I am here, and we don't wait for this tree.

Bit by bit, I very patiently present the unripe fruit to the market. What policy does the federation have, or does the overall system start with each person raising the stick over our heads that we have to understand ourselves, we are a little strict with the seedlings and teenagers. Well, I have a series of my own principles. For example, if a rider comes to me who is 15 to 20 kilos overweight and insists on reaching the Tehran provincial championship this year, well.

Get your weight right so you can become a champion. In which riding discipline do you find a champion, whether in Iran or in any sport, who becomes a champion with excess weight or, for example, with a series of unsuitable conditions? It's very difficult. Well, I thank both of you very much for taking the time. It's Saturday, you came here. I know both of you are sleepy people, you rest a lot. Now it's Saturday, you have the right, thank you very much, and if you have any final words, advice, or suggestions.

To your radio audience, please. Thank you very much for watching this program and taking the time. But I want to say that if an organization or system is not working properly or does not have good training or the current conditions are not good, anyone can find a better way by thinking a little. What I want to emphasize a lot is to insist on the foundation, ride as much as you can, and spend time with your horse as much as you can.

First, I thank Mohsen for being very concerned about these issues and following up on these equestrian problems and challenges, and I enjoy his work a lot, and the second thanks to dear Meysam Safavi for preparing such an energetic and very neat and tidy place for doing this work, and it really touched my heart, and finally, I want you to read that famous sentence that I always remember. In the 80s, he told me at Ferdowsi Hotel in Mashhad, and I haven't forgotten this sentence to this day, and I tell everyone. He says, love the horse as much as you can and do whatever you can for its happiness and health because nothing is more delightful than this. Well, thank you very much and thank you to all of you who were with us in the video and.

I hope that in future sessions, with the help of others, we can prepare more interesting topics for you and talk more about the culture and learning and, in general, the horse industry in Iran. I would like to thank dear Vahid Norouzi as someone who helped us have good filming today, dear Soroush Omumi, who is one of the musicians and masters in the field of music and took the trouble of sound recording, Meysam Safavi as the producer and someone who helped us really move forward with these conditions, and Ms. Hajizadeh who took care of the logistics issues. Thank you for being with me up to this point. I entrust everyone to the great God. As usual, take care of your horses. Thank you immensely for being with me and Radio Charl until the end of this episode, and I hope you learned from these talks and share this podcast with your friends because I am sure many will see their path clearer and their way more correct by hearing these words. Again, I remind you if you want to support the radio, the financial support link is provided for you in the description of this episode.

And I pray for you and keep you stronger and more motivated with your support. Until the next episode, I entrust everyone to the great God, and as always, take care of your horses.

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